Organizations: University of California, Santa Barbara
Abstract
The Muon optimizer has emerged as a compelling alternative to Adam for training large language models, achieving remarkable computational savings through gradient orthogonalization. However, Muon's optimizer state is more sensitive to quantization errors: because the orthogonalization discards the magnitudes of singular values and retains only directional information, even small quantization errors in singular vector directions are amplified in the update. In this work, we propose MuonQ, a low-bit Muon training framework built on the principle of directional fidelity optimization. First, we apply a pre-quantization normalization so that each step introduces quantization errors of the same magnitude, preventing the accumulated error from developing a preferred direction. Second, we introduce a structural decomposition that separately quantizes the dominant singular components via power iteration, ensuring that quantization errors perturb only singular value magnitudes rather than rotating singular vector directions. Third, we adopt μ-law companding quantization to allocate higher resolution to densely packed momentum values, shifting the quantization objective from outlier preservation to dense-region distinguishability. Together, these techniques enable stable 4-bit quantization of Muon's optimizer states. Pre-training experiments on GPT-style and LLaMA-style models demonstrate that MuonQ at 4-bit precision closely matches full-precision Muon in both training loss and downstream task accuracy, while reducing optimizer state memory by up to 7.3 ×. Our code is available at https://github.com/YupengSu/MuonQ.
Optimizer-state quantization is commonly designed for Adam's dense, parameter-aligned first- and second-moment arrays. This abstraction breaks for memory-efficient optimizers, whose states may be factored, confidence-modulated, or maintained in a projected space, so similar reconstruction error can produce different update error. We formulate optimizer-state quantization as a joint problem over representation, topology, and update semantics. We then introduce Adaptive Log-Space (AL) quantization for non-negative states. AL fits each block's observed nonzero logarithmic interval and reserves a separate code for exact zero, enforcing q=0⇔x=0; signed momentum and state precision remain independently selectable. Controlled probes show that adaptive ranges reduce update error and temporal drift, exact-zero reservation preserves dormant states, and state topology constrains useful block granularity. End-to-end language-model training evaluates the resulting policy across dense, factored, confidence, and projected optimizer states. On TinyLlama-1.1B, AL8 with uniform 8-bit momentum reaches 72.90 perplexity versus 73.54 for bitsandbytes 8-bit AdamW, with comparable optimizer-state storage and higher throughput. CAME matches reference-level final perplexity across three seeds when its non-negative states use AL16, while a semantic grouping-and-protection policy closes most of quantized Adafactor's 100K-step late-loss gap. These results make state topology and update semantics first-class design constraints for optimizer quantization.
Training with quantized weights can reduce costs but often results in degraded accuracy, especially when optimization is carried out in low precision, without storing high-precision copies. We identify a key failure mode: under low precision, standard optimizers can get stuck and not make progress, especially at large weight magnitudes due to coarse mantissa resolution. To overcome this, multiplicative updates have been previously proposed, in place of additive updates in standard optimizers. While successful under extremely low precision, such as under the logarithmic number system, they suffer from failures near zero and across sign changes. The failure modes of additive and multiplicative updates are therefore complementary. To exploit this, we propose M+Adam, which combines both update types: additive steps handle sign changes and small magnitudes, while multiplicative steps ensure progress at large magnitudes when additive updates are zeroed out under rounding. We prove monotone descent for M+Adam under standard smoothness assumptions. Across LLaMA-style pretraining with 60M-1B models, 1x-8x Chinchilla budgets, and using only BF16, FP8, and FP4 master weights, M+Adam consistently improves low-precision training.
Xiaoyuan Liang, Sebastian Loeschcke, Mads Toftrup +1
The Muon optimizer has recently offered a promising alternative to AdamW for large language model training, leveraging matrix orthogonalization to produce geometry-aware updates. However, like all first-order methods, Muon can become trapped in sharp local minima. In this work, we present MONA, an optimizer that bridges Muon's orthogonalization framework with curvature-aware acceleration. MONA adds an acceleration term directly into Muon's gradient processing pipeline. This term is calculated from the exponential moving average of gradient differences. We provide a detailed convergence analysis for MONA, showing that the acceleration term enables escape from sharp minima while preserving Muon's spectral-norm regularization. Empirically, MONA achieves better convergence and downstream task performance compared to both Muon and AdamW across three scales of Mixture-of-Experts pretraining, spanning from 1B to 68B parameters, with the largest model trained on 1 trillion tokens. Furthermore, we conduct supervised fine-tuning on the MOE-68B-A3B model and evaluate it on general capability, mathematical reasoning, and code generation benchmarks, where MONA achieves SOTA performance.