Muse: Representation Geometry of Muon Beyond Normalized Momentum

The recent empirical success of the Muon optimizer has renewed interest in non-Euclidean optimization, typically justified by similarities with second-order methods, and linear minimization oracle (LMO) theory. In this paper, we challenge this geometric narrative through three contributions, demonstrating that precise geometric structure is not the key factor affecting optimization performance. First, we introduce Freon, a family of optimizers based on Schatten (quasi-)norms, powered by a novel, provably optimal QDWH-based iterative approximation. Freon naturally interpolates between SGD and Muon, while smoothly extrapolating into the quasi-norm regime. Empirically, the best-performing Schatten parameters for GPT-2 lie strictly within the quasi-norm regime, and thus cannot be represented by any unitarily invariant LMO. Second, noting that Freon performs well across a wide range of exponents, we introduce Kaon, an absurd optimizer that replaces singular values with random noise. Despite lacking any coherent geometric structure, Kaon matches Muon's performance and retains classical convergence guarantees, proving that strict adherence to a precise geometry is practically irrelevant. Third, having shown that geometry is not the primary driver of performance, we demonstrate it is instead controlled by two local quantities: alignment and descent potential. Ultimately, each optimizer must tune its step size around these two quantities. While their dynamics are difficult to predict a-priori, evaluating them within a stochastic random feature model yields a precise insight: Muon succeeds not by tracking an ideal global geometry, but by guaranteeing step-size optimality.

Muon and related norm-constrained matrix optimizers have become central to large-scale learning problems. They are formulated as a linear maximization oracle (LMO) over an ambient matrix-norm ball in unconstrained Euclidean space. However, these do not generalize cleanly to manifold-valued parameters such as low-rank factorizations, orthogonality constraints, or symmetric positive definite (SPD) matrices. Naively restricting the Muon LMO to the tangent space (i) breaks quotient symmetries and (ii) couples the tangent-space constraint with an ambient norm bound, thereby obstructing closed-form solutions on various manifolds of interest. We resolve both issues with a single observation: every Riemannian metric canonically lifts a unitarily invariant Euclidean norm to an intrinsic norm on each tangent space, and the resulting intrinsic norm constrained LMO is symmetry preserving. Building on this, we introduce intrinsic Muon (iMuon), a unified framework that yields closed-form updates on the fixed-rank, SPD, Stiefel, and Grassmann manifolds for any unitarily invariant norm, including the spectral, Frobenius, and nuclear norms. We establish convergence guarantees for both deterministic and stochastic iMuon with rate constants that depend only on the manifold dimension. Notably, on the fixed-rank manifold this constant depends only on the rank, making the rate independent of factor conditioning and removing the runtime factor-rescaling required by prior work. Experiments on LoRA finetuning of LLMs, image classification, and subspace learning illustrate the efficacy of the proposed approach.

Muon has recently emerged as a strong optimizer for large-scale deep learning, where it reshapes gradient updates through approximate orthogonalization and has been reported to outperform Adam and AdamW in large language model training. Its empirical success has motivated a growing body of theoretical work that interprets Muon as steepest descent under the spectral norm. Yet it remains unclear which of Muon's advantages stem from its update rule itself and which are artifacts of the scale, architecture, and data of modern deep networks. In this work, we isolate the optimizer from these confounding factors by studying Muon on a simple, well-understood, and spectrally structured problem: low-rank matrix factorization. Through a controlled comparison against carefully tuned adaptive baselines, we find that Muon does not consistently outperform AdamW in this setting and that several previously reported advantages are sensitive to hyperparameter choices. Our results provide a more nuanced picture of when spectrum-aware orthogonalization is beneficial and argue for evaluating modern optimizers on controlled problems in addition to end-to-end benchmarks.