Sequential Beats Joint: On the Interplay between On-Policy Distillation and RLVR
Authors: Boyan Li, Bingsen Chen, Chenghao Yang, Ping Nie, Chen Zhao, Xi Ye
Organizations: University of Alberta · New York University · NYU Shanghai · University of Chicago · University of Waterloo · Alberta Machine Intelligence Institute (Amii)
Reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards (RLVR) and on-policy distillation (OPD) have emerged as two dominant methods for post-training reasoning LLMs. Prior work uses OPD's dense token-level supervision to complement the sparse RL reward, fusing the two signals within a single step: either as a \emph{weighted-additive combination} or a \emph{teacher-modulated rescaling} of the RL advantage. In this paper, we show that a simple two-stage scheme, OPD-then-RL, consistently outperforms pure OPD, pure RLVR, and all such joint baselines across logic and math reasoning benchmarks. Beyond the empirical results, we further provide a systematic understanding of this through pass@k behavior, learning dynamics, and parameter updates, yielding a consistent explanation: OPD expands the student's coverage of teacher-supported solutions and RL sharpens within that support, while jointly optimizing the two signals causes them to interfere.To provide a practical recipe, we find that the OPD validation score is the key signal for when to switch to RL, and that OPD is a better cold start for RL than SFT. Together, our results establish OPD-then-RL as a simple yet strong way to combine the two methods, turning two entangled signals into complementary stages.
Reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards (RLVR) broadcasts a single response-level reward to every token, while on-policy distillation (OPD) scores each token against a stronger teacher for a dense advantage but caps performance at teacher quality and discourages exploration beyond it. Their complementarity makes combining RLVR and OPD promising, but we find that fusing the two advantages with a fixed coefficient triggers entropy collapse from two miscalibrations: a magnitude mismatch, where token-level OPD advantages can spike far beyond the bounded RLVR advantage and erase its signal, and a temporal mismatch, where sustained full-strength OPD keeps pulling the student toward the teacher and limits exploration needed to surpass it. We propose SAF, a Stable Advantage Fusion framework that resolves both issues via a lightweight, four-stage pipeline applied only to the OPD advantage: a sparsify-then-compress mechanism for magnitude control paired with a warm-up-then-anneal mechanism for temporal control, with each stage independently switchable and adding negligible overhead. Instantiating RLVR with GRPO, we evaluate SAF across seven mathematical reasoning and code generation benchmarks with Qwen3-1.7B/4B/8B: SAF avoids entropy collapse and consistently outperforms fixed-coefficient GRPO+OPD fusion, improving the aggregate score by 0.51-2.70% across all six model-domain settings while achieving more stable training.
On-Policy Self-Distillation (OPSD) has recently emerged as an alternative to Reinforcement Learning with Verifiable Rewards (RLVR), promising higher accuracy and shorter responses through token-level credit assignment from a self-teacher conditioned on privileged context. However, this promise does not carry over to thinking-enabled mathematical reasoning, where reported accuracy gains shrink and sometimes turn negative. We hypothesize that hindsight supervision can specify better token-level alternatives in short thinking-disabled outputs, but in long thinking-enabled traces it more readily identifies redundancy than supplies better replacements. To test this, we applied OPSD separately to correct and incorrect rollout groups, so that compression and correction can be observed in isolation. Our results show that in thinking-enabled mathematical reasoning, OPSD behaves most reliably as a compression mechanism rather than a correction mechanism: training only on correct rollouts preserves accuracy while substantially shortening responses, whereas training only on incorrect rollouts damages accuracy. In light of these findings, we propose a revised post-training pipeline for thinking-enabled mathematical reasoning: SFT then RLVR then OPSD.
Reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards (RLVR) is a powerful recipe for improving language-model reasoning, but it is expensive to repeat on every new strong model because the target model must generate many rollouts during training. As models scale, post-training itself becomes a bottleneck. We study a weak-to-strong alternative: run RL on a smaller model where rollouts are cheaper, then reuse what that RL run learned to improve a stronger target model. Directly distilling the post-RL weak teacher is not enough, because the teacher's final policy mixes useful RL gains with the limitations of the smaller model. We propose Direct On-Policy Distillation (Direct-OPD), which transfers the teacher's RL-induced policy shift instead. Direct-OPD compares the post-RL teacher with its own pre-RL reference and treats their log-ratio as a dense implicit reward for the student. In plain terms, the checkpoint pair tells us which actions RL made the weak model more or less likely to take, and Direct-OPD applies that signal on the stronger student's own on-policy states. This directly reuses the weak model's RL supervision signal without running sparse-reward RL on the target model. Empirically, Direct-OPD consistently leverages weaker teachers to improve stronger target models; notably, it boosts Qwen3-1.7B from 48.3% to 58.3% on AIME 2024 in just 4 hours on 8 A100 GPUs. It outperforms step-matched direct RL and enables the sequential composition of multiple policy shifts. Our results show that RL outcomes can be reused across model scales as implicit reward signals, not merely as final models to imitate.