The Best Optimizer Depends on Batch Size
Organizations: Princeton University · Stanford University · University of California, San Diego
Abstract
A plethora of new adaptive optimizers are designed to efficiently estimate and use minibatch gradient statistics to shape parameter updates, but they are typically benchmarked at a single batch size. Hyperparameter scaling rules promise to preserve performance as batch size and gradient noise change, suggesting that the best optimizer at one batch size should remain the best at another. We challenge this approach to developing and evaluating optimizers by showing: (1) no principled scaling rule for Muon works consistently across training settings, and (2) the best optimizer for language model pretraining changes with batch size even after extensive hyperparameter tuning.
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Appendix
| Method | MuonW | Adam / AdamW | |||||
| Invariant preservation | |||||||
| Adam SDE ( Malladi et al., 2022 ) | – | – | – | – | |||
| Completed transfer ( Mlodozeniec et al., 2026 ) | – | – | – | ||||
| Second-moment memory ( Marek et al., 2025 ) | – | – | – | – | – | ||
| Power Lines ( Bergsma et al., 2025 ) * | |||||||
| median loss | ||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Parameter scaling | EMA scaling | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Batch | Loss | Matrix LR | Matrix WD | Auxiliary LR | Muon | Adam | Adam |
| 256K | 3.26553 | Square root | Fixed | Square root | Fixed | Fixed | EMA |
| 512K | 3.28004 | Square root | Square root | Square root | Fixed | Fixed | EMA |
| 1M | 3.31183 | Fixed | Linear | Fixed | Fixed | Fixed | EMA |
| 2M | 3.37977 | Fixed | Linear | Fixed | Fixed | Fixed | EMA |
| Matrix hyperparameter configuration | Auxiliary hyperparameter configuration | ||||||||
| Batch | Steps | LR | WD | Emb. LR | Out. LR | Scalar LR | |||
| 128K | 13000 | 0.0176777 | 0.025 | 0.95 | 0.494974 | 0.00282842 | 0.0106066 | 0.8 | 0.993629 |
| 256K | 6500 | 0.0176777 | 0.05 | 0.95 | 0.494974 | 0.00282842 | 0.0106066 | 0.8 | 0.987299 |
| 512K | 3250 | 0.0176777 | 0.1 | 0.95 | 0.494974 | 0.00282842 | 0.0106066 | 0.8 | 0.97476 |
| 1M | 1625 | 0.0176777 | 0.2 | 0.95 | 0.494974 | 0.00282842 | 0.0106066 | 0.8 | 0.950156 |
| 2M | 813 | 0.0176777 | 0.4 | 0.95 | 0.494974 | 0.00282842 | 0.0106066 | 0.8 | 0.902854 |
| Only change from selected rule | 256K | 512K | 1M | 2M | Mean BSZ regret |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Selected common rule | 3.26969 | 3.28192 | 3.31183 | 3.37977 | 0.00151 |
| Matrix LR to square root | 3.27140 | 3.29573 | 3.35026 | 3.46358 | 0.03595 |
| Matrix LR to linear | 3.28325 | 3.33974 | 3.44900 | 3.66492 | 0.12493 |
| Matrix WD to fixed | 3.27030 | 3.28906 | 3.32787 | 3.40266 | 0.01318 |
| Matrix WD to square root | 3.26862 | 3.28334 | 3.31700 | 3.38662 | 0.00460 |
| Auxiliary LR to square root | 3.26763 | 3.28119 | 3.31645 | 3.41001 | 0.00953 |
| Rank | Parameter scaling | EMA scaling | Validation loss | Mean BSZ regret | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 64 | 128 | 512 | 1024 | 2048 | 4096 | |||||||||
| 1 | S | F | S | F | F | F | F | 0.23370 | 0.23136 | 0.23373 | 0.22778 | 0.23290 | 0.23683 | 0.00492 |
| 2 | S | F | F | S | F | F | E | 0.22970 | 0.23049 | 0.23440 | 0.23301 | 0.23772 | 0.23346 | 0.00533 |
| 3 | L | F | S | S | F | E | E | 0.23435 | 0.23346 | 0.22739 | 0.22892 | 0.23043 | 0.24545 | 0.00553 |
| 4 | S | F | S | L | F | F | F | 0.23374 | 0.23289 | 0.23135 | 0.23350 | 0.23206 | 0.23692 | 0.00561 |
| 5 | S | F | S | F | F | F | E | 0.23201 | 0.23276 | 0.23128 | 0.23387 | 0.23190 | 0.23986 | 0.00581 |
| Rank | Parameter scaling | EMA scaling | Terminal validation loss | Mean BSZ regret | ||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 256K | 512K | 1M | 2M | |||||||||
| 1 | F | L | F | F | F | F | E | 3.26969 | 3.28192 | 3.31183 | 3.37977 | 0.00151 |
| – | F | L | F | S | F | F | E | – | – | 3.30815 | 3.37707 | – |
| – | F | L | F | L | F | F | E | – | – | 3.30896 | 3.37751 | – |
| 2 | F | L | F | F | F | F | F | 3.26952 | 3.28214 | 3.31272 | 3.38241 | 0.00240 |
| – | F | L | F | S | F | F | F | – | – | 3.30956 | 3.38014 | – |
| Method | Tuned coordinates | Count |
|---|---|---|
| MuonW | 7 | |
| KL-SOAP-W | 9 | |
| ShampooW | 6 | |
| AdamW | 8 | |
| LionW | 8 |
| Momentum / preconditioner | |||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Method | Steps | ||||||||
| 128K | MuonW | 13000 | 0.0177 | 0.95 | – | – | – | 0.025 | 3.2656 |
| 128K | KL-SOAP-W | 13000 | 0.0045 | – | 0.965 | 0.974 | 0.948 | 0.1 | 3.2536 |
| 128K | ShampooW | 13000 | 0.005 | – | 0.9 | 0.9 | – | 0.05 | 3.2650 |
| 128K | AdamW | 13000 | 0.00075 | – | 0.94 | 0.949 | – | 0.3 | 3.3151 |
| 128K | LionW | 13000 | – | 0.9 | 0.99 | – | 8.6 | 3.3176 | |
| Auxiliary learning rates | Adam coefficients | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Method | ||||||||
| 128K | MuonW | 0.495 | 0.00283 | 0.0106 | 0.8 | 0.994 | 0.8 | 0.001 |
| 128K | KL-SOAP-W | 0.15 | 0.00156 | 0.005 | 0.434 | 0.995 | 0.4 | 0 |
| 128K | ShampooW | 1.2 | 0.0125 | 0.04 | 0.52 | 0.995 | 0.6 | 0 |
| 128K | AdamW | 0.849 | 0.00884 | 0.0283 | 0.717 | 0.995 | 0.4 | 0 |
| 128K | LionW | 0.287 | 0.00299 | 0.00958 | 0.859 | 0.995 | 0.6 | 0 |
| Momentum / preconditioner | ||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Method | Steps | |||||||
| 128K | MuonH | 13000 | 0.009 | 0.95 | – | – | – | 3.2629 |
| 128K | KL-SOAP-H | 13000 | 0.009 | – | 0.929 | 0.974 | 0.948 | 3.2585 |
| 128K | ShampooH | 13000 | 0.009 | – | 0.922 | 0.853 | – | 3.2660 |
| 128K | AdamH | 13000 | 0.009 | – | 0.94 | 0.949 | – | 3.3013 |
| 128K | LionH | 13000 | 0.00636 | – | 0.929 | 0.987 | – | 3.2948 |
| Auxiliary learning rates | Adam coefficients | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Method | |||||||
| 128K | MuonH | 0.3 | 0.00313 | 0.01 | 0.8 | 0.994 | 0.4 |
| 128K | KL-SOAP-H | 0.3 | 0.00313 | 0.01 | 0.434 | 0.994 | 0.4 |
| 128K | ShampooH | 1.2 | 0.0125 | 0.04 | 0.52 | 0.995 | 0.4 |
| 128K | AdamH | 0.424 | 0.00442 | 0.0141 | 0.717 | 0.995 | 0.4 |
| 128K | LionH | 0.3 | 0.00313 | 0.01 | 0.717 | 0.994 | 0.4 |
| 0.009 | 0.95 | 0.3 | 0.8 | 0.99363 | 0.4 | 3.26346 |
| 0.0045 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.29906 |
| 0.006364 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.27465 |
| 0.012728 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.27016 |
| 0.018 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.29629 |
| – | 0.975 | – | – | – | – | 3.27140 |
| 0.018 | 0.95 | 0.6 | 0.85858 | 0.975 | 0.4 | 3.27768 |
| 0.009 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.31502 |
| 0.012728 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.28879 |
| 0.025456 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.28412 |
| 0.036 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.31009 |
| – | 0.975 | – | – | – | – | 3.28664 |
| 0.025456 | 0.95 | 0.6 | 0.9 | 0.95125 | 0.4 | 3.30679 |
| 0.012728 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.34188 |
| 0.018 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.31511 |
| 0.036 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.31483 |
| 0.050912 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.33885 |
| – | 0.975 | – | – | – | – | 3.31714 |
| 0.036 | 0.95 | 0.6 | 0.9 | 0.93442 | 0.4 | 3.37098 |
| 0.018 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.40605 |
| 0.025456 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.38018 |
| 0.050912 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.38112 |
| 0.072 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.40408 |
| – | 0.96464 | – | – | – | – | 3.37684 |
| 0.009 | 0.92929 | 0.974 | 0.94801 | 0.3 | 0.43431 | 0.99363 | 0.4 | 3.25728 |
| 0.0045 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.29786 |
| 0.006364 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.27114 |
| 0.012728 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.26005 |
| 0.018 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.27850 |
| – | 0.96464 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.25890 |
| 0.018 | 0.92929 | 0.85858 | 0.9 | 0.6 | 0.8 | 0.975 | 0.8 | 3.26964 |
| 0.009 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.30243 |
| 0.012728 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.28109 |
| 0.025456 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.27408 |
| 0.036 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.29737 |
| – | 0.975 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.29182 |
| 0.025456 | 0.92929 | 0.86565 | 0.86565 | 0.6 | 0.8 | 0.95125 | 0.6 | 3.29536 |
| 0.012728 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.32611 |
| 0.018 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.30198 |
| 0.036 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.30162 |
| 0.050912 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.32237 |
| – | 0.95 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.30005 |
| 0.036 | 0.92929 | 0.6561 | 0.87841 | 0.6 | 0.8 | 0.90725 | 0.6 | 3.35062 |
| 0.018 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.38592 |
| 0.025456 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.36252 |
| 0.050912 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.35583 |
| 0.072 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.38261 |
| – | 0.95 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.35416 |
| 0.009 | 0.92222 | 0.85294 | 1.2 | 0.52 | 0.9955 | 0.4 | 3.26617 |
| 0.0045 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.30292 |
| 0.006364 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.27724 |
| 0.012728 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.26965 |
| 0.018 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.29102 |
| – | 0.9725 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.27934 |
| 0.018 | 0.92929 | 0.9 | 0.84853 | 0.8 | 0.98232 | 0.4 | 3.27578 |
| 0.009 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.31081 |
| 0.012728 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.28723 |
| 0.025456 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.28195 |
| 0.036 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.30230 |
| – | 0.96464 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.28247 |
| 0.025456 | 0.92929 | 0.848 | 0.84853 | 0.8 | 0.97075 | 0.4 | 3.29641 |
| 0.012728 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.33305 |
| 0.018 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.30733 |
| 0.036 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.30217 |
| 0.050912 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.32518 |
| – | 0.96464 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.30594 |
| 0.036 | 0.92929 | 0.72488 | 0.6 | 0.8 | 0.94435 | 0.4 | 3.33928 |
| 0.018 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.37605 |
| 0.025456 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.34886 |
| 0.050912 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.34763 |
| 0.072 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.37374 |
| – | 0.95 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.34432 |
| 0.009 | 0.94 | 0.94903 | 0.42426 | 0.71716 | 0.9955 | 0.4 | 3.30144 |
| 0.0045 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.32743 |
| 0.006364 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.30696 |
| 0.012728 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.31867 |
| 0.018 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.37667 |
| – | 0.96464 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.30978 |
| 0.018 | 0.92929 | 0.9 | 0.6 | 0.8 | 0.975 | 0.4 | 3.33227 |
| 0.009 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.36880 |
| 0.012728 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.34160 |
| 0.025456 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.34476 |
| 0.036 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.38899 |
| – | 0.96464 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.35050 |
| 0.018 | 0.96464 | 0.9025 | 0.3 | 0.8 | 0.95863 | 0.25 | 3.37114 |
| 0.006364 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.45697 |
| 0.009 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.41310 |
| 0.012728 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.38258 |
| 0.025456 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.37975 |
| 0.036 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.41154 |
| 0.025456 | 0.96464 | 0.90725 | 0.42426 | 0.8 | 0.9213 | 0.25 | 3.48723 |
| 0.012728 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.52999 |
| 0.018 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.49427 |
| 0.036 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.50275 |
| 0.050912 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.54708 |
| – | 0.975 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.50189 |
| 0.006364 | 0.92929 | 0.98726 | 0.3 | 0.71716 | 0.99363 | 0.4 | 3.29369 |
| 0.003182 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.33450 |
| 0.0045 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.30646 |
| 0.009 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.31381 |
| 0.012728 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.35250 |
| – | 0.96464 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.30461 |
| 0.018 | 0.92929 | 0.95 | 0.42426 | 0.8 | 0.98333 | 0.4 | 3.33575 |
| 0.009 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.37584 |
| 0.012728 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.34782 |
| 0.025456 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.34516 |
| 0.036 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.38208 |
| – | 0.96464 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.37497 |
| 0.036 | 0.9 | 0.9025 | 0.6 | 0.9 | 0.97562 | 0.4 | 3.40475 |
| 0.018 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.43203 |
| 0.025456 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.40845 |
| 0.050912 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.43559 |
| 0.072 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.48983 |
| – | 0.95 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.66610 |
| 0.036 | 0.9 | 0.90725 | 0.6 | 0.9 | 0.95363 | 0.2 | 3.55651 |
| 0.018 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.60350 |
| 0.025456 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.56984 |
| 0.050912 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.57392 |
| 0.072 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.62350 |
| – | 0.92929 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.64818 |
| 0.017678 | 0.95 | 0.025 | 0.49497 | 0.8 | 0.99363 | 0.8 | 3.26547 |
| 0.00625 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.27885 |
| 0.0088388 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.27196 |
| 0.0125 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.26909 |
| 0.025 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.27012 |
| 0.035355 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.28074 |
| 0.025 | 0.95 | 0.05 | 0.7 | 0.8 | 0.96464 | 0.7 | 3.27788 |
| 0.0125 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.28710 |
| 0.017678 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.28196 |
| 0.035355 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.28059 |
| 0.05 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.28835 |
| – | 0.96464 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.27811 |
| 0.025 | 0.95 | 0.1 | 0.98995 | 0.8 | 0.93106 | 0.8 | 3.31108 |
| 0.0125 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.32240 |
| 0.017678 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.31407 |
| 0.035355 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.31274 |
| 0.05 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.32043 |
| 0.070711 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.33872 |
| 0.025 | 0.95 | 0.1 | 0.7 | 0.85858 | 0.90725 | 0.4 | 3.36617 |
| 0.0125 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.37566 |
| 0.017678 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.36828 |
| 0.035355 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.37356 |
| 0.05 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.38618 |
| – | 0.975 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.37805 |
| 0.0045 | 0.96464 | 0.974 | 0.94801 | 0.1 | 0.15 | 0.43431 | 0.9955 | 0.4 | 3.25388 |
| 0.00225 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.26253 |
| 0.003182 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.25685 |
| 0.006364 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.25702 |
| 0.009 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.26629 |
| – | 0.975 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.25474 |
| 0.012728 | 0.9 | 0.85858 | 0.85858 | 0.15 | 0.84853 | 0.8 | 0.975 | 0.4 | 3.27594 |
| 0.006364 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.28188 |
| 0.009 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.27597 |
| 0.018 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.28161 |
| 0.025456 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.28798 |
| – | 0.96464 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.96353 |
| 0.006364 | 0.92929 | 0.86565 | 0.86565 | 0.6 | 0.6 | 0.8 | 0.95125 | 0.6 | 3.29629 |
| 0.003182 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.30629 |
| 0.0045 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.30860 |
| 0.009 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.30143 |
| 0.012728 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.30874 |
| – | 0.96464 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.32143 |
| 0.036 | 0.92929 | 0.82805 | 0.87841 | 0.4 | 0.6 | 0.8 | 0.93442 | 0.4 | 3.38357 |
| 0.018 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.39916 |
| 0.025456 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.41082 |
| 0.050912 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.41118 |
| 0.072 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.43941 |
| – | 0.95 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.41115 |
| 0.005 | 0.05 | 1.2 | 0.52 | 0.9955 | 0.6 | 3.26453 |
| 0.0025 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.26990 |
| 0.0035355 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.26949 |
| 0.0070711 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.26794 |
| 0.01 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.27269 |
| – | 0.025 | – | – | – | – | 3.26934 |
| 0.0070711 | 0.15 | 0.84853 | 0.8 | 0.98232 | 0.6 | 3.28179 |
| 0.0035355 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.28292 |
| 0.005 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.28384 |
| 0.01 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.28310 |
| 0.014142 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.28916 |
| – | 0.075 | – | – | – | – | 3.28211 |
| 0.0070711 | 0.3 | 0.84853 | 0.8 | 0.97075 | 0.6 | 3.30873 |
| 0.0035355 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.31717 |
| 0.005 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.31121 |
| 0.01 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.31060 |
| 0.014142 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.31547 |
| – | 0.2 | – | – | – | – | 3.31070 |
| 0.01 | 0.5 | 0.6 | 0.8 | 0.94435 | 0.6 | 3.35964 |
| 0.005 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.36559 |
| 0.0070711 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.36361 |
| 0.014142 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.37268 |
| 0.02 | – | – | – | – | – | 3.38900 |
| – | 0.4 | – | – | – | – | 3.36664 |
| 0.00075 | 0.94 | 0.94903 | 0.3 | 0.84853 | 0.71716 | 0.9955 | 0.4 | 3.31446 |
| 0.000375 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.33480 |
| 0.00053033 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.32473 |
| 0.0010607 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.31801 |
| 0.0015 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.32305 |
| – | 0.97 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.32536 |
| 0.0015 | 0.9 | 0.85858 | 0.6 | 0.84853 | 0.85858 | 0.975 | 0.4 | 3.33876 |
| 0.00075 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.36489 |
| 0.0010607 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.34867 |
| 0.0021213 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.35025 |
| 0.003 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.39202 |
| – | 0.92929 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.41100 |
| 0.0015 | 0.85858 | 0.93106 | 0.8 | 0.6 | 0.85858 | 0.9025 | 0.4 | 3.40136 |
| 0.00075 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.44254 |
| 0.0010607 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.41807 |
| 0.0021213 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.41238 |
| 0.003 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.50500 |
| – | 0.9 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.41518 |
| 0.0021213 | 0.9 | 0.86884 | 1.8 | 3.3941 | 0.92929 | 0.96721 | 0.6 | 3.47554 |
| 0.0010607 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.52875 |
| 0.0015 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.49515 |
| 0.003 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.49297 |
| 0.0042426 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.52116 |
| – | 0.95 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.69887 |
| 0.9 | 0.98996 | 8.6 | 0.28728 | 0.85858 | 0.9955 | 0.6 | 3.32190 | |
| – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.36648 | |
| – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.33947 | |
| – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.33920 | |
| 0.0001 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.37269 |
| – | 0.92929 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.32372 |
| 0.0001 | 0.95 | 0.96 | 0.05 | 0.21213 | 0.71716 | 0.95 | 0.2 | 3.39255 |
| – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.44386 | |
| – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.41694 | |
| 0.00014142 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.39765 |
| 0.0002 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.44060 |
| – | 0.975 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.41967 |
| 0.00014142 | 0.95 | 0.94371 | 0.15 | 0.3 | 0.6 | 0.9025 | 0.2 | 3.44463 |
| – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.50421 | |
| – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.47023 | |
| 0.0002 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.48006 |
| 0.00028284 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.55216 |
| – | 0.96464 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.48061 |
| 0.0002 | 0.9 | 0.88855 | 0.3 | 0.3 | 0.8 | 0.95363 | 0.2 | 3.55681 |
| 0.0001 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.64900 |
| 0.00014142 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.59357 |
| 0.00028284 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.55522 |
| 0.0004 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.63287 |
| – | 0.92929 | – | – | – | – | – | – | 3.64348 |
| anchor | fully scaled | top- | top- | top- | top- | top- | random- |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Matrix hyperparameter configuration | ||||||
| Optimizer | / | Aux. LR mult. | ||||
| MuonW | 0.02 | 0.0473004 | 0.95 | – | – | 1.41421 |
| KL-SOAP-W | 0.0127279 | 0.05 | 0.95 | 0.9 | 0.9 | 1.41421 |
| ShampooW | 0.005 | 0.2 | 0.9 | 0.9 | – | 2 |
| AdamW | 0.00178381 | 0.6 | 0.9 | 0.95 | – | 1 |
| LionW | 0.000336359 | 12 | 0.9 | 0.99 | – | 1.41421 |
| Optimizer | Completed points | Initial BPB | Final BPB | Improvement |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| MuonW | 47 | 1.0730 | 1.0711 | 0.0019 |
| KL-SOAP-W | 23 | 1.0715 | 1.0712 | 0.0003 |
| ShampooW | 40 | 1.0777 | 1.0750 | 0.0027 |
| AdamW | 25 | 1.1094 | 1.1080 | 0.0014 |
| LionW | 43 | 1.1510 | 1.1369 | 0.0141 |
| Optimizer | Transfer rule | 512K BPB | 1M BPB | 2M BPB |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| KL-SOAP-W | Auxiliary-only EMA | 1.0812 | 1.1035 | 1.1614 |
| Invariant-preserving | 1.0867 | 1.1594 | 1.3735 | |
| ShampooW | Auxiliary-only EMA | 1.0847 | 1.1039 | 1.1525 |
| Invariant-preserving | 1.0844 | 1.1044 | 1.6558 |
| Optimizer | Irreducible BPB | Amplitude | Exponent | RMSE |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| MuonW | 0.983714 | 0.025145 | 0.672383 | 0.002624 |
| KL-SOAP-W | 0.992348 | 0.018555 | 0.805057 | 0.001106 |
| ShampooW | 1.011685 | 0.011108 | 0.907607 | 0.006164 |
| AdamW | 0.987890 | 0.030050 | 0.778845 | 0.005971 |
| LionW | 0.918750 | 0.095158 | 0.492865 | 0.013589 |
| Compute-efficiency penalty | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Optimizer | (BPB) | Own reference | Muon reference | |
| 256K | MuonW | 1.0712 | 0.0000 | 0.0000 |
| KL-SOAP-W | 1.0722 | 0.0000 | 0.0699 | |
| ShampooW | 1.0753 | 0.0000 | 0.1163 | |
| AdamW | 1.1076 | 0.0000 | 0.4361 | |
| LionW | 1.1365 | 0.0000 | 0.5872 | |
| Optimizer | (tokens) | (BPB) | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| MuonW | 1 | 262,144 | 224 | 1.3264 |
| 2 | 262,144 | 448 | 1.1932 | |
| 4 | 262,144 | 896 | 1.1197 | |
| 8 | 262,144 | 1,792 | 1.0712 | |
| 12 | 262,144 | 2,688 | 1.0492 | |
| 16 | 262,144 | 3,584 | 1.0366 |
| Rank | 512K | 1M | 2M | Mean BSZ regret | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| KL-SOAP-W | |||||||||
| 1 | F | F | F | F | E | 1.0812 | 1.1035 | 1.1614 | 0.00123 |
| 2 | F | F | F | F | F | 1.0787 | 1.1033 | 1.1650 | 0.00153 |
| 3 | F | E | F | F | F | 1.0821 | 1.1042 | 1.1659 | 0.00327 |
| 4 | F | E | F | F | E | 1.0829 | 1.1045 | 1.1660 | 0.00367 |
| 5 | F | F | F | E | E | 1.0793 | 1.1069 | 1.2031 | 0.01563 |