cs.LGMay 25, 2026

Mapping the Schedule x Bit-Width Boundary in Sub-100M Quantisation-Aware Training

Authors: Christian Brandt Thomassen

Organizations: Dwarf A/S, Copenhagen, Denmark

Abstract

We test whether the optimal learning-rate schedule depends on bit-width during from-initialisation quantisation-aware training (QAT) for sub-100M decoder language models. A 720-run factorial grid (Phase 2) over bit-width x warmdown fraction x LR magnitude x model size x seed (FP16/INT8/INT6, 15M-100M, 5 seeds) finds the optimal warmdown is 33% at every (bit-width, size) cell. The primary hypothesis -- that INT6 QAT requires a different schedule than higher-precision training -- is falsified at FP16/INT8/INT6. A 625-run follow-up (Phase 5) probes the null along five axes: optimiser (AdamW), schedule shape (cosine), training length (up to 9x more iterations), an extended size sweep (5M-350M), and an INT4 sweep from 3M to 100M. The null is robust under all three setup changes. The INT6 penalty follows a log-linear scaling law whose fit on Phase 2 predicts the five held-out Phase 5 sizes (5M, 8M, 175M, 250M, 350M) within their 95% prediction intervals (5/5). For INT4 the picture is sharper than the higher precisions: at 50M and 100M, wd33 is decisively optimal (paired z ~ 12-15, 10/10 seeds); below 50M, across the six tested sizes from 3M to 30M, no individual size shows a statistically significant schedule preference and the per-size mean penalty oscillates within seed-level noise. The boundary is therefore a transition between a noise-dominated regime below 50M and a decisive wd33 regime at and above 50M, not a clean wd10 region. A weight-to-grid-distance probe falsifies the simplest mechanism for the FP16/INT8/INT6 null result (rapid grid-snapping): pre-warmdown, INT6-QAT weights sit at essentially the same distance from the INT6 grid as FP16 weights (ratio ~ 1.04). Practical recommendation: at sub-100M scale, tune the LR schedule once at FP16 and apply unchanged to INT8/INT6 QAT; for INT4 at 50M+ use wd33; for INT4 below 50M the schedule choice is in the noise.

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