Max-Window Scale Estimation for Near-Lossless HiF8 W8A8 Quantization-Aware Training

We present HiFA4, a post-training operator-level design that executes both QK^T and PV in FlashAttention as 4-bit HIF4 Cube GEMMs for LLM inference on Ascend NPUs, while maintaining the online softmax state in FP16. To our knowledge, HiFA4 is the first Ascend-HIF4-targeted design of this kind evaluated on standard NLP benchmarks. HiFA4 combines two mechanisms. Smooth-QK applies a calibration-static per-channel equivalent rescaling to Q and K after RoPE, transferring quantization difficulty from K to Q without per-tile online reduction at inference. P-Reordering accumulates the softmax normalizer from the same quantized attention weights P_hat used in the PV GEMM, rather than from a higher-precision reconstruction. We show that this inconsistent formulation introduces a coherent output-scaling error, and validate the effect on a Qwen3-8B Layer-0 MMLU trace, where all 3.6M measured attention tiles exhibit net probability-mass loss with median epsilon_bar = -0.064. P-Reordering also allows the normalizer to be fused into the PV Cube GEMM. Across five LLMs, HiFA4 reduces quantization-induced decision drift. On Qwen3-8B, it recovers 37.5% of the accuracy gap introduced by direct HIF4 quantization, narrows the sample-weighted accuracy loss from 1.12 pp to 0.70 pp, reduces BF16-inconsistent MMLU predictions from 16.3% to 8.2%, and cuts MMLU accuracy regressions by 57% (1071 to 465). On Gemma2-9B, mild smoothing keeps HiFA4 within 0.7 pp of BF16 while reducing MMLU regressions by 27%. On LLaMA3.1-8B, Mistral-7B, and Phi-4B, where Smooth-QK is disabled, P-Reordering with the adopted Q-Mean auxiliary still reduces full-set MMLU regressions by 41-52%. A preliminary instruction-scheduling analysis projects a 35.4% critical-path latency reduction relative to BF16 by fusing the softmax normalizer into the PV Cube GEMM; on-hardware validation is left to future work.

Quantization-aware training (QAT) is widely adopted to quantize language models by training full-precision weights using gradients from the quantized model. The main bottleneck is its slow convergence and early performance plateau, particularly below 4-bit-widths. While this problem has been observed in prior work, its precise cause remains unclear. In this paper, we analyze the convergence of QAT by estimating the spectrum of the loss-surface Hessians. We find that the weights converge to flat regions around saddle points, where a large fraction of the Hessian eigenvalues are both positive and negative. During training, an increasing fraction of Hessian eigenvalues concentrates around zero, whose magnitude decreases. At lower bit-widths, the magnitude of eigenvalues in the Hessian spectrum is significantly smaller. To mitigate these issues, we propose an algorithm called WinQ to accelerate QAT, which involves: (1) periodically resetting weights to the linear interpolation of full-precision and quantized weights, reducing the distance to the quantization grid and increasing eigenvalue magnitude, and (2) computing gradients of noise-injected weights to regularize the Hessian. Extensive experiments show that WinQ accelerates QAT by up to 4 times across various quantization methods and models. Under the same training cost, WinQ improves state-of-the-art sub-4-bit quantization by up to 8.8%. These results are consistent across 16 settings with different language models, quantization methods, and bit widths.

Post-training quantization to 4-bit weights is widely reported to be nearly lossless. We test this claim for multi-turn, tool-calling agents, where it now matters most. On $τ^2$-bench, across two open-weight model families in dense and MoE variants and two domains (eight cells, 456 episodes each, at 16-, 8-, and 4-bit weights), quantization indeed looks free on the standard metric. No cell shows a score change that survives multiple-comparison correction, and in the cell that carries the largest process damage, equivalence testing bounds the change within $\pm$7.5 points. The process tells a different story. Quantization amplifies the failure the model already exhibits at full precision (tool-name hallucination in telecom, with the same directional trend in retail entity errors) by up to 2.5$\times$ in volume (+17.6 points per task), while creating essentially no new failures. The failure set is the same at every precision (rank correlation $\geq$ 0.94, 0.18% novel events). The score stays flat because the benchmark's ten-error budget absorbs the extra failures. Shrinking the budget to two errors re-exposes a score gap of 17 points, and it does so only in the one cell where quantization added error volume, exactly as the masking account predicts. A targeted error-repair prompt, run for five telecom models at every precision, removes the damage exactly and only where it lives. Both diagnostics, the per-channel error rate and success under a shrinking budget, come from logs benchmarks already collect; we suggest reporting them alongside task reward.