Reinforcement Learning with Verifiable Rewards is an effective route for post-training to strengthen the reasoning capability of large language models. However, as training proceeds, the learning signal can collapse thus makes the training gain become marginal and ineffective. Specifically, a growing fraction of prompts' rollouts become advantage-degenerated: all the self-generated rollouts show verified-success, making the standard deviation over their rewards be zero; accordingly each rollout's advantage becomes degenerated (zero) as well. Given such rollouts' advantages, the policy-gradient for model optimization eventually vanishes, capping the training performance. We argue that some of these rollouts still contain valuable learning signals but unfortunately omitted with the existing RLVR methods. In this paper, inspired through analyzing the entropy pattern behind golden trajectories produced by external expert models, we propose EchoRL for better exploiting the advantage-degenerated rollouts to further improve the training performance. EchoRL is a lightweight module that first identifies an EchoClip from verified-success rollouts based on their step-level entropy values, and then feeds this clip back as an auxiliary supervision signal in the RL objective. Extensive experiments across 10 benchmarks, 5 LLM backbones, and 4 popular RLVR post-training methods demonstrate that EchoRL consistently improves RLVR post-training with minimal overhead.
Reinforcement learning with verifiable rewards (RLVR) has become a dominant paradigm for improving reasoning in large language models (LLMs), yet the underlying geometry of the resulting parameter trajectories remains underexplored. In this work, we demonstrate that RLVR weight trajectories are extremely low-rank and highly predictable. Specifically, we find that the majority of downstream performance gains are captured by a rank-1 approximation of the parameter deltas, where the magnitude of this projection evolves near-linearly with training steps. Motivated by this, we propose a simple and compute-efficient method RELEX (REinforcement Learning EXtrapolation), which estimates the rank-1 subspace from a short observation window and extrapolates future checkpoints via linear regression, with no learned model required. Across three models (i.e., Qwen2.5-Math-1.5B, Qwen3-4B-Base, and Qwen3-8B-Base), RELEX produces checkpoints that match or exceed RLVR performance on both in-domain and out-of-domain benchmarks, requiring as few as 15% steps of full RLVR training. Remarkably, RELEX is able to extrapolate far beyond the observation window at no training cost, predicting checkpoints up to 10-20× beyond the observed prefix with continued improvement (e.g., observe only the first 50 steps and extrapolate to 1000 steps). Our ablation analysis confirms the minimalist sufficiency of RELEX: neither increasing the subspace rank nor employing non-linear modeling yields further gains in extrapolation. Finally, we show that RELEX's success stems from a "denoising" effect: by projecting updates onto the rank-1 subspace, the model discards stochastic optimization noise that would otherwise degrade performance during extrapolation. Our code is available at https://github.com/weizhepei/RELEX.
The standard LLM training pipeline applies reinforcement learning (RL) only after pre-training and supervised fine-tuning (SFT). We question this status quo by training a LLM from scratch and applying RL, SFT, and SFT followed by RL directly to intermediate pre-training checkpoints. We find that RL is effective very early, and often matches the full SFT→RL pipeline early as well. Through experiments on harder problems, we find that targeted pre-training data composition is a strong lever for RL effectiveness, even more so than model scale. Beyond reasoning accuracy, applying RL directly to base checkpoints expands the model's distribution; the sharpening effect reported in recent work arises only when RL follows SFT. The general capabilities of the model remain essentially unchanged by RL, while they degrade following SFT. Finally, we merge RL and SFT objectives by parallel averaging, which outperforms across all other training methods discussed, across metrics, while preserving general capabilities. Together, these results suggest that LLM training might benefit from an expanded use of RL.
Reinforcement Learning with Verifiable Rewards (RLVR) for language-model reasoning can fail at both extremes of task difficulty: easy prompts often produce all-correct, low-diversity rollout groups with little gradient signal, while hard prompts can produce all-incorrect groups with no positive reward. We introduce ExTra (Exploratory Trajectory Optimization), a GRPO-compatible framework that extracts exploration signals from the model's own rollouts. ExTra combines two mechanisms: (i) a novelty reward that adds embedding-based diversity bonuses after GRPO normalization, rewarding diverse correct solutions; and (ii) entropy-guided prefix regeneration, which scores partial trajectories using entropy signals and continues exploration from promising intermediate steps. Across six mathematical reasoning benchmarks, ExTra improves Qwen3-1.7B over GRPO by about +5 points on pass@1 and +7 points on pass@16, showing that trajectory-level exploration signals can improve both single-sample accuracy and inference-time coverage.