Logit-based knowledge distillation (KD) is used to train smaller language models (LMs) via supervision from stronger teachers, but whether its benefits are consistent across training stages remains unclear. Through controlled experiments, we find that forward Kullback-Leibler (KL) distillation--the standard KD formulation--with post-trained teachers behaves fundamentally differently during mid-training, an intermediate phase of self-supervised learning on curated corpora. Surprisingly, while forward KD simultaneously improves reasoning and factual recall during pre-training relative to standard next-token prediction (NTP), it instead slows factual recall acquisition during mid-training despite continued reasoning gains. We trace this stage dependence to an asymmetry in teacher confidence across data domains and the student's evolving knowledge state: teachers are more confident on procedural than knowledge-intensive data, while students acquire low-entropy factual knowledge earlier in training. To mitigate this imbalance, we propose Switch Distillation, a simple mid-training objective that distills on tokens where the teacher is confident, using teacher predictive entropy as a lightweight routing signal, and otherwise falls back to cross-entropy. Switch Distillation consistently outperforms existing distillation objectives across teacher sizes. Relative to standard NTP, it achieves 1.61-1.71x the reasoning performance and 1.13-1.19x the knowledge and commonsense performance while preserving 96.7-96.8% of factual recall. Crucially, these benefits persist after post-training: Switch Distillation closes the factual recall gap while maintaining 1.25-1.32x and 1.13-1.20x gains in reasoning and knowledge and commonsense, respectively.
Distilling the capabilities from a large reasoning model (LRM) to a smaller student model often involves training on substantial amounts of reasoning data. However, knowledge distillation (KD) over lengthy sequences with prompt (P), chain-of-thought (CoT), and answer (A) sections makes the process computationally expensive. In this work, we investigate how the allocation of supervision across different sections (P, CoT, A) affects student performance. Our analysis shows that selective KD over only the CoT tokens can be effective when the prompt and answer information is encompassed by it. Building on this insight, we establish a truncation protocol to quantify computation-quality tradeoffs as a function of sequence length. We observe that beyond a specific length, longer training sequences provide marginal returns for downstream performance but require substantially higher memory and FLOPs. To this end, training on only the first 50% of tokens of every training sequence can retain, on average, ≈91% of full-sequence performance on math benchmarks while reducing training time, memory usage, and FLOPs by about 50% each. Codes are available at https://github.com/weiruichen01/distilling-the-essence.
Wei-Rui Chen, Vignesh Kothapalli, Ata Fatahibaarzi +5
Knowledge distillation is central to LLM post-training, yet its design space remains poorly understood, especially alongside reinforcement learning (RL). We show that the prevailing paradigms, off-policy distillation and on-policy distillation (OPD), implicitly couple two orthogonal choices: prefix source and token-level KL direction. This follows from decomposing sequence-level KL over autoregressive response distributions: forward KL pairs teacher prefixes with token-level forward KL, and reverse KL pairs student prefixes with token-level reverse KL. We argue this coupling is not intrinsic: decoupling the two axes yields four valid objectives. We establish gradient-level identities showing forward KL gives SFT-style cross-entropy matching with teacher soft targets, whereas reverse KL gives an RL-style policy-gradient objective with a dense teacher-student log-ratio reward, connecting them to off-policy SFT, DAgger-style on-policy SFT, offline-RL-style distillation, and OPD. We conduct an extensive controlled study on math reasoning, evaluating the four objectives both as standalone methods and as initializations for subsequent RL. The results reveal three tradeoffs: KL direction induces an accuracy-entropy tradeoff, prefix source a quality-compute tradeoff, and training length an accuracy-stability tradeoff. Motivated by these findings, we propose KL mixing and an entropy-gated length curriculum. KL mixing shows long-sequence distillation requires substantial forward-KL weight to prevent entropy collapse and length inflation without sacrificing accuracy. The entropy-gated length curriculum improves Avg@k and Pass@k by 3.6 and up to 5.8 points, and cuts average response length by roughly 3x versus fixed long-horizon training. Our results provide a framework and practical methods for designing reasoning distillation objectives that balance accuracy, diversity, compute, and RL behavior.
Small language models are often the only option for deployment under tight latency, cost, and on-premises constraints, but they are rarely trained from scratch: a compressed model is usually recovered through knowledge distillation (KD). This recovery step largely decides the final quality, yet it is expensive. We present a practitioner's study of how to make distillation training efficient, organised around two systems contributions. First, we show that offline KD (caching the teacher's top-K logits once and training the student against the cache) matches online distillation at near-identical training loss while removing the teacher from memory, running about 29% faster per iteration, and reaching up to 41% higher throughput on a single H200 GPU. Second, we introduce a \emph{fused, chunked KL loss} that never materialises the full vocabulary-sized logit tensor, making peak memory linear in the sequence length. This removes the memory spike that otherwise caps context length and lets us train at four times the context (32{,}768 tokens) on a single GPU. A separate output-head-only toy benchmark isolates the loss kernel and confirms its memory and iteration-rate scaling from 4K to 256K tokens. Together these make large-scale healing and hundreds of ablations affordable. We also report supporting ablations on loss design and sequence packing. We release our chunked-loss implementation: https://github.com/CompactifAI/Full-Chunked-KL-Loss.
Bakbergen Ryskulov, Iker García-Ferrero, David Montero +5