What Is Lost in Post-Training? Default Collapse and the Loss of In-Context Steerability Across Diverse Perspectives
Organizations: Hasso Plattner Institute University of Potsdam · Harvard University
Abstract
AI models serving a heterogeneous population must act on the principles appropriate to each user and context. While post-training has been shown to narrow the views large language models express, prior work has focused on default behavior rather than the ability to adapt to in-context information. We show that post-training also degrades a model's ability to be steered in-context toward perspectives it was not trained to favor. In controlled experiments, we fine-tune models toward one side of cultural-value disagreements and evaluate checkpoints throughout training. The trained side becomes increasingly dominant in ordinary use, while the ability to recognize and faithfully enact the opposing view declines. These findings point to a tension between prioritizing a single set of values and preserving the technical capacity needed to serve diverse stakeholders. Finally, we propose and analyze an alternative objective that maximizes reward subject to a prescribed distribution over expressed perspectives, and present stance-distribution matching as a practical implementation.
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| Dimension and meaning | Low pole | High pole |
|---|---|---|
| Power distance index (PDI) Acceptance of unequal authority. | Favor equal voice and allow authority to be questioned. Example: Defend your view when disagreeing with a team leader. | Accept hierarchy and give leaders greater say. Example: Defer to the leader’s experience and judgment. |
| Individualism vs. collectivism (IDV) Personal autonomy versus obligations to one’s group. | Collectivism: Prioritize group loyalty and shared goals. Example: Assess a class by its collective achievement. | Individualism: Prioritize individual choice and personal goals. Example: Assess students on their own performance. |
| Uncertainty avoidance (UAI) Comfort with ambiguity. | Tolerate uncertainty and allow flexibility. Example: Leave travel plans open to change. | Seek predictability and clear structure. Example: Set a trip’s itinerary in advance. |
| Motivation toward achievement and success (MAS) 9 9 9 MAS is called “masculinity versus femininity” in the original benchmark. Competitive achievement versus care and quality of life. | Prioritize cooperation, care, and quality of life. Example: Value relationships and work-life balance. | Prioritize competition, status, and material success. Example: Value career standing and earning potential. |
| Long-term vs. short-term orientation (LTO) Future benefits versus past and present commitments. | Emphasize tradition, present obligations, and nearer-term outcomes. Example: Prefer immediate workplace perks and recognition. | Emphasize persistence, thrift, and adaptation for future benefits. Example: Prefer lasting job satisfaction and good working conditions. |
| Indulgence vs. restraint (IVR) Social limits on enjoyment. | Restraint: Limit gratification through social norms. Example: Curb recreational activities judged excessive. | Indulgence: Allow greater freedom to enjoy life. Example: Welcome recreation for its enjoyment and companionship. |
| Questions | SFT, RLHF | Recognition tuning | ||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dim. | All | Train | Held-out q. | Held-out domain | Tasks/ epoch | Updates | Tasks/ epoch | Updates |
| PDI | 512 | 248 | 124 | 140 | 496 | 1,488 | 992 | 2,976 |
| IDV | 472 | 226 | 115 | 131 | 452 | 1,356 | 904 | 2,712 |
| UAI | 530 | 254 | 127 | 149 | 508 | 1,524 | 1,016 | 3,048 |
| MAS | 452 | 219 | 107 | 126 | 438 | 1,314 | 876 | 2,628 |
| LTO | 485 | 229 | 115 | 141 | 458 | 1,374 | 916 | 2,748 |
| Base model | Method | Pressure variable | Values / range | Max training | Learning-rate setting | Batch size | Optimizer / schedule | Runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| SFT | Training progress | 1,314 examples (3 epochs) | LR multiplier | OpenAI-managed; not disclosed | 12 | |||
| GPT-4.1 mini | DPO | Inverse temperature | 1,314 examples (3 epochs) per | LR multiplier | OpenAI-managed; not disclosed | 12 per (48 total) | ||
| SFT | Training progress | 3 epochs (1,314–1,524 updates) | 1 task/update | AdamW; constant LR; weight decay | 12 | |||
| Llama-3.1 | RLHF | Inverse temperature | 3 epochs (1,314–1,524 updates) | 1 task/update | AdamW; constant LR; weight decay | 36 per ( populations: 100/0, 75/25, 55/45) | ||
| Gemma-4 | SFT | Training progress | 3 epochs (1,314–1,524 updates) | 1 task/update | AdamW; constant LR; weight decay | 12 |
| Llama-3.1 | GPT-4.1 mini | Gemma-4 | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Setting | Hard-label SFT | Recognition tuning | RLHF | Hard-label SFT | DPO | Hard-label SFT |
| Initial weights | Base model | Matching final SFT model | Base model | Base model | Base model | Base model |
| Objective | Two-option CE, Eq. 9 | Two-option CE, Eq. 9 | KL-regularized reward, Eq. 10 | Token CE | DPO logistic loss [ 59 ] | Two-option CE, Eq. 9 |
| Learning rate | API multiplier 2.00 | API multiplier 1.00 | ||||
| Batch | 1 task | 1 task | 1 task | 1 example | 1 preference pair | 1 task |
| Metric | Condition | Format | Quantity scored | Success criterion | Aggregation | Implementation |
| MC | First-token probability for each pole, averaged across answer orders. | None; higher trained-pole probability means stronger collapse. | Fraction of held-out questions on which the trained-pole answer is the more likely one. | Prompt F.6 | ||
| Default collapse | No pole specified | Free form | Judge score: = low, = neutral, = high. | None; the score records the expressed stance. | Distribution or valid-response mean, oriented toward the trained pole. | Prompt F.6 |
| MC | Order-averaged probability of the requested versus opposing pole. | Requested pole preferred when steering to low and to high. | Fraction of held-out questions passing both directions. | Prompt F.9 | ||
| Steerability | Each pole requested separately | Free form | Judge score oriented so = requested pole. | None; = neutral and = full alignment. | Mean across valid held-out responses. | Prompt F.9 |
| Recognition | Low and high poles queried separately | MC | Order-averaged probability of the response matching the stated pole. | Correct response preferred for both pole descriptions. | Fraction of held-out questions passing both poles. | Prompt F.10 |
| Mass | Valid | Default collapse (%) | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Letter | Sentence | Share | Letter | Sentence | Letter, ( ) | |
| 5 | 0.41 | 0.49 | 0.93 | 51.50 | 58.20 | 44.70 (4) |
| 10 | 0.13 | 0.19 | 0.69 | 56.70 | 64.10 | 1.30 (1) |
| 20 | 0.20 | 0.34 | 0.82 | 68.50 | 74.30 | 97.90 (2) |
| 50 | 0.41 | 0.58 | 0.86 | 90.10 | 89.00 | 97.40 (6) |
| 100 | 0.36 | 0.48 | 0.91 | 91.20 | 94.50 | 99.50 (4) |
| Dim. | Population | High share | tr | q | d | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| high | 1.00 | 1.00 | 1.00 | 0.99 | ||
| low | 0.00 | 0.01 | 0.00 | 0.01 | ||
| mix75 | 0.75 | 1.00 | 1.00 | 1.00 | ||
| mix25 | 0.25 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0.01 | ||
| mix55 | 0.55 | 0.75 | 0.80 | 0.81 | ||
| Target | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| split 50/50 | 0.10 | 0.25 | 0.15 | 0.00 | 0.15 | 0.25 | 0.10 |
| split slopes | 0.25 | 0.17 | 0.08 | 0.00 | 0.08 | 0.17 | 0.25 |
| Base model | Prompts | Reward model | Judged | Target | Steps |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| MAS+PDI (467) | MAS-high | PDI | split slopes | 1,160 | |
| Llama3-8B-SFT | IVR+IDV (467) | IVR-high | IDV | split 50/50 | 1,160 |
| Setting | Value |
|---|---|
| Rollout batch | 8 prompts 8 answers responses per update |
| Learning rate | , with 3% warm-up and cosine decay to |
| PPO clip range | |
| Objective weights | Reference KL: . SDM: |
| Histogram window | samples per rollout engine |
| Smoothing | Histogram: . Target: |
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