Muon, an optimizer known for its efficiency, has a clear interpretation for matrix-valued updates, but convolutional kernels are stored as four-dimensional tensors. Standard implementations reshape these tensors into matrices, a shortcut which breaks the theoretical understanding behind Muon. To investigate this, we formalize the corresponding optimization objective directly in convolutional operator geometry and introduce Convolutional Newton-Schulz (Conv-NS), which approximates the polar factor in this geometry while preserving kernel support. When applied in fast training experiments, Conv-NS and reshape-based Muon are both computationally efficient and achieve comparable accuracy on CIFAR-10 and ImageNet classification tasks. However, as one could expect a theoretically aligned Conv-NS to outperform reshape-based Muon, we investigate this mismatch between practice and theoretical understanding, with the hypothesis that exact convolutional orthogonalization may overconstrain updates. These findings highlight Muon's strong practical performance while opening directions for its further development on convolutions. Our code is publicly available at github conv-muon.
Muon replaces matrix momentum with an approximately orthogonal polar direction, but its geometry depends on the matrix representation. For convolution, standard unfolding describes a local patch map rather than the convolution operator. We introduce Muon-C, an operator-aligned optimizer that represents kernel momentum as frequency-wise channel-transfer matrices, polarizes these blocks independently, and uses a critical Fourier grid to return updates exactly to the original finite kernel support. We show that the new geometry arises from combining the block partition and Fourier coordinates. The exact-polar direction is a linear minimization oracle under the critically sampled convolution norm. Its worst-case guarantee relative to the continuous convolution-operator norm is never weaker than unfolding and is strictly stronger for 3×3 kernels. On CIFAR-10 flow matching with matched applied-update RMS, Muon-C reaches 9.87 FID at 40k iterations, compared with 22.26 for unfolded Muon and 51.31 for Adam. It reaches their final quality using 0.62× and 0.64× their model FLOPs, respectively. Under equal tuning budgets, Muon-C achieves 3.42 FID. Gains persist across data scales and transfer to classification across convolutional architectures.
Jiaxin Qing, Lexin Li
University of California, Berkeley Berkeley, CA 94720-1776, USA
Orthogonality-based optimizers, such as Muon, have recently shown strong performance across large-scale training and community-driven efficiency challenges. However, these methods rely on a costly gradient orthogonalization step. Even efficient iterative approximations such as Newton-Schulz remain expensive, typically requiring dozens of matrix multiplications to converge. We introduce a pre-conditioning procedure that improves the initialization of the Newton--Schulz iterations while incurring negligible overhead. Furthermore, our pre-conditioning reduces the initial polar error and enables the removal of one Newton-Schulz iteration (out of the five iterations usually used in practice). The resulting implementation significantly reduces Muon's overhead. At the end-to-end training level, we observe consistent runtime improvements across speed-run and standard benchmarks, including ∼3% reductions in training time on multiple fast training benchmarks, while matching reference performance on both language and vision tasks. Crucially, these improvements require no hyperparameter tuning and can be adopted as a simple drop-in replacement. Beyond empirical gains, we provide theoretical insight into the geometry of the update and its potential robustness against feature collapse. Our code is publicly available on github, in optax and huggingface kernels.
Thibaut Boissin, Thomas Massena, Franck Mamalet +1
IRIT-MISFIT · Institut de Recherche Technologique Saint-Exupery, France · DTIPG - SNCF, IRIT-MISFIT +2
Muon has recently emerged as one of the most effective optimizers for training large neural networks, yet its empirical success has been explained from several different perspectives. In this paper, we propose a simple mechanistic interpretation: Muon can be understood as an implicit residual connection during training. Specifically, orthogonalizing the update can sacrifice some immediate gradient fidelity while improving representation preservation for downstream layers. We study this trade-off in controlled linear optimization settings, where Muon can learn representations that are slower to fit a local target but easier for downstream layers to exploit. Our results suggest a conceptual explanation for Muon and a design perspective for optimizers that balance local descent with downstream usability.
Hao Huang
College of Computer Science and Technology Zhejiang University Hangzhou, Zhejiang, China