Long Listening Thoughts: Eliciting Open Auditory Reasoning with Deliberative Perception and Cognitive Refinement
Organizations: Carnegie Mellon University · NVIDIA
Abstract
We introduce Long Listening Thoughts (LLT), a framework for constructing post-training datasets that improves audio reasoning by pairing deliberate perceptual grounding with explicit cognitive behaviors. On audio understanding and reasoning benchmarks, large audio-language models (LALMs) are limited primarily by perceptual errors, yet existing post-training datasets rely on audio descriptions of limited diversity. Through a four-stage pipeline, LLT (1) builds multi-aspect dense audio descriptions spanning semantic, acoustic, and temporal information, (2) generates more challenging questions, (3) synthesizes incorrect reasoning traces, and (4) extends short reasoning traces into long ones via a thought-continuation strategy that elicits cognitive behaviors such as verification and backtracking. Using LLT, we synthesize 1.6M reasoning traces and train Qwen2.5-Omni-7B with a two-stage pipeline of supervised fine-tuning (SFT) followed by direct preference optimization (DPO). This improves accuracy on MMAU Test-mini (71.5 to 78.2), MMAR (56.7 to 63.7), and MMSU (60.6 to 66.0).
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| Method | MMAU Test-mini | MMAR | MMSU |
| SFT with 50k QA Pairs | |||
| AF-Think ( ) | 74.1 | 58.8 | 63.4 |
| LLT ( , ) | 75.7 | 61.1 | 64.0 |
| LLT ( , , ) | 74.6 | 60.2 | 63.3 |
| SFT with Full Reasoning Traces | |||
| AF-Think ( ) | 73.9 | 59.9 | 63.7 |
| Method | MMAU Test-mini | MMAR | MMSU |
| Large Audio Language Models | |||
| Qwen2-Audio-Instruct ( 2024 ) | 59.6 | 30.0 | 53.3 |
| Kimi-Audio ( 2025 ) | 68.2 | 57.6 | 59.3 |
| Audio Flamingo 3 ( 2025 ) | 73.3 | 58.5 | 61.4 |
| Audio Reasoning Models | |||
| SFT-based | |||
| Setting | MMAU Test-mini | MMAR | MMSU |
| Qwen2.5-Omni baseline | 71.5 | 56.7 | 60.6 |
| Stage 3: Source of Incorrect Traces | |||
| SFT on 50k QA Pairs | |||
| From base LALM | 72.9 | 58.3 | 64.4 |
| From | 74.6 | 60.2 | 63.3 |
| Two-Stage Training | |||
| Method | MMAU Test-mini | MMAR | MMSU |
| Qwen2-Audio-Instruct | 59.6 | 30.0 | 53.3 |
| + LLT SFT | 67.8 | 53.8 | 59.0 |
| Qwen3-Omni-Instruct | 77.5 | 66.9 | 69.0 |
| + LLT SFT | 79.6 | 67.9 | 71.6 |
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Appendix
| Pre Post | # Responses | % |
| correct correct | 668 | 59.0 |
| incorrect incorrect | 309 | 27.3 |
| incorrect correct (correction) | 99 | 8.7 |
| correct incorrect (over-correction) | 56 | 4.9 |
| Net correction | +43 | +3.8 |
| Setting | MMAU Test-mini | MMAR | MMSU |
| Thought expansion | 75.6 | 60.5 | 63.8 |
| Thought continuation | 75.7 | 61.1 | 64.0 |
| Trace (role in DPO) | Base | SFT ckpt (DPO init) |
| (chosen) | 2.173 | 0.715 |
| (chosen) | 2.153 | 0.831 |
| , synthetic (chosen) | 2.348 | 1.428 |
| , model-sampled (chosen) | 1.774 | 1.282 |
| , synthetic (rejected) | 2.510 | 1.948 |
| , model-sampled (rejected) | 0.767 | 1.615 |
| Preference pair | Synthetic | Model-sampled |
| 1.233 | 0.900 | |
| 1.117 | 0.784 | |
| 0.520 | 0.333 |
| Model | Overall | 30s ( ) | 30s ( ) |
| Qwen2.5-Omni-7B (reported) | 52.2 | – | – |
| Qwen2.5-Omni-7B (reproduced) | 50.1 | 42.6 | 57.1 |
| + LLT (SFT DPO) | 55.2 | 48.7 | 59.8 |
| Model | Weighted Avg | Long-Form | Cough | Heart | Lung | Speech | Speech + Sound | Multi-Turn | Voice QA |
| Qwen2.5-Omni-7B | 47.5 | 54.7 | 44.4 | 38.0 | 36.1 | 55.6 | 46.1 | 100.0 | 56.1 |
| + LLT (SFT DPO) | 51.3 | 45.3 | 51.1 | 45.8 | 44.3 | 55.3 | 52.8 | 88.9 | 47.8 |
| Model | Overall | Perception | Cognition |
| Qwen2.5-Omni-7B | 35.9 | 38.9 | 35.5 |
| + LLT (SFT DPO) | 40.4 | 44.6 | 39.6 |
| Model | MMAU Test-mini | MMAR |
| Qwen2.5-Omni-7B (reported) | 71.5 | 56.7 |
| Qwen2.5-Omni-7B (reproduced) | 74.6 | 57.9 |
| + Gaussian noise | 49.2 | 36.9 |
| + No audio | 48.4 | 34.6 |
| LLT (SFT DPO) | 78.2 | 63.7 |
| + Gaussian noise | 48.9 | 31.4 |
| Type A | Type B | |||
| Per-trace quality | ||||
| Hallucination | 13 | 19 | – | 18 |
| Textual artifact | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 |
| Reasoning valid | 96 | 99 | – | 95 |
| Plausibly incorrect | – | – | 77 | – |
| Item | % Agr. | Cohen’s | Krippendorff’s |
| Question valid | 85 | 0.22 | 0.22 |
| Hallucination | 79 | 0.21 | 0.22 |
| Textual artifact | 97 | ||
| Reasoning valid | 94 | ||
| Plausibly incorrect | 66 | 0.07 | 0.09 |
| Better reasoning | 50 |
| Source data | |
| Audio clips | 338k |
| Original QA pairs (AF-Think) | 338k |
| Hardened QA pairs (Stage 2) | 316k |
| Total QA pairs | 654k |
| Reasoning traces | |
| Short correct | 654k |
| (1) |
| \begin{split}\mathcal{J}_{\mathrm{GRPO}}(\theta)={}&\mathbb{E}_{q\sim P(Q),\,\{o_{i}\}_{i=1}^{G}\sim\pi_{\theta_{\mathrm{old}}}(O\mid q)}\Bigg[\frac{1}{G}\sum_{i=1}^{G}\frac{1}{|o_{i}|}\sum_{t=1}^{|o_{i}|}\bigg(\min\Big[\frac{\pi_{\theta}(o_{i,t}\mid q,o_{i,<t})}{\pi_{\theta_{\mathrm{old}}}(o_{i,t}\mid q,o_{i,<t})}\hat{A}_{i,t},\\ &\mathrm{clip}\Big(\frac{\pi_{\theta}(o_{i,t}\mid q,o_{i,<t})}{\pi_{\theta_{\mathrm{old}}}(o_{i,t}\mid q,o_{i,<t})},1-\epsilon,1+\epsilon\Big)\hat{A}_{i,t}\Big]-\beta\mathbb{D}_{\mathrm{KL}}\!\left[\pi_{\theta}\,\|\,\pi_{\mathrm{ref}}\right]\bigg)\Bigg]\end{split} | (3) |
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