Loss-difference conditional mutual information (ld-CMI) uses the smallest of the standard observations in the supersample hierarchy of generalization bounds: it measures what a learner's loss differences reveal about which candidate of each pair it was trained on. Accuracy is known to force information into the model; data processing does not carry such lower bounds to losses. We show, by bounding three moments of the loss differences, that accuracy also forces ld-CMI. For linear predictors with a smooth convex loss of nonzero slope at zero, such as the logistic loss, plus a regularizer whose curvature and growth are both of power r≥2, on product distributions over a scaled sign cube in dimension at least linear in n, every proper learner with expected excess risk at most ε on these distributions at the optimal sample size n≍ε−2+2/r has worst-case ld-CMI of order n bits, and Θ(n/(1+(τ/ε)2)) bits under Gaussian noise of standard deviation τ on the loss differences. The same holds without a regularizer, at n≍ε−2. Consequently, range-scaled ld-CMI bounds cannot vanish on these distributions, although every proper learner's generalization gap is O(n−1/2). We also show that model-level information does not determine noisy loss-difference information, and that the growth, slope and dimension conditions are needed, the last up to a logarithm.
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Work
Observable and learners
Instance; dimension
Attias et al. (2024)
I(θ;U∣Z)=Ω(ε−2) or Ω(ε−1) , also per sample (the first for proper learners), for every learner accurate with high probability
affine and strongly convex losses on the sign cube; d≥Ω(n2logn) a
Voitovych et al. (2025)
tracer recall Ω(n) from (θ,z,μ) , for every learner with expected excess risk O(n−1/2)
affine loss with parameters in a cube, sparse signs; d≳nlog(1/ξ)
Haghifam et al. (2023) ; Wang & Mao (2023b)
non-vanishing evaluated-CMI bounds; signs of loss differences; gradient descent
one-hot convex Lipschitz instance; d=2n2
This paper
Θ(n/(1+(τ/ε)2)) for three information measures of X+τG and every proper learner accurate on the family
smooth convex links, power- r regularizers, product laws on the scaled sign cube; n≍ε−2+2/r , d≳n
Table 1: What Accuracy Is Known to Force. Each row is a lower bound for every learner of the stated kind; only the last row allows observation noise, and it has a matching upper bound at every noise level.
Figure 1: Structure of the Proof. Shaded boxes are hypotheses; Section 6 shows that the slope and growth conditions are needed, and the dimension condition up to a logarithm.
Figure 2: Measurements at d=64n . Values are averages over the prior; bars are 95% intervals. (a) Lower-bound estimates of the bits per pair ι against τ/(M/n) for ridge ERM (filled) and logistic ridge ERM (open); shaded: between the two halves of Theorem 6 at each learner’s own M , V and Vres . (b) Ridge ERM at τ=0 : the gap, its bounds 4L/n and EΠVp/n , and the lower bound 2L2ln2ι on the range-scaled ld-CMI bounds; L=1 .
Appendix figures & tables8 assets
Supplementary material from the paper’s appendix.
Appendix
Link
ϕ(t)
b
L
H
logistic
ln(1+e−t)
1/2
(1+e−1)−1
1/4
exponential
e−t
1
e
e
squared
(1−t)2/2
1
2
1
affine
−t
1
1
0
Appendix
Table E.1: Links and Their Constants. Admissible constants of Assumption 2 : b=−ϕ′(0) , L≥max[−1,1]∣ϕ′∣ and H≥max[−1,1]ϕ′′ .
Learner, dimension
n
d
Trials
Pairs
Seed
Runtime (s)
ridge ERM, d=32n
100
3200
2000
200000
10100
104.7†
300
9600
600
180000
10300
85.8†
1000
32000
200
200000
11000
123.3†
3000
96000
40
120000
13000
139.6†
ridge ERM, d=64n
50
3200
4000
200000
17050
198.1†
100
6400
2000
200000
17100
188.7†
Appendix
Table I.1: The Runs. Runtimes marked † include a membership test that this paper does not use; it draws 2000 fresh points per trial after the release is recorded. The runtime marked ‡ is the sum of four chunks of 50 trials, run in parallel in 741.2 to 742.5 s each.
Learner, dimension
n
ι(0) [95% interval]
Lower /ι
Upper /ι
In
Slope
cfit
afit
ridge ERM, d=32n
100
0.7049 [0.7017, 0.7080]
0.672
1.822
16
−1.991
0.713
1.000
300
0.6924 [0.6890, 0.6959]
0.673
1.797
16
−1.978
0.697
1.023
1000
0.6865 [0.6831, 0.6899]
0.675
1.801
16
−1.875
0.696
1.000
3000
0.6849 [0.6806, 0.6891]
0.675
1.802
16
−1.985
0.690
1.000
ridge ERM, d=64n
50
0.9133 [0.9113, 0.9154]
0.632
1.476
16
−1.936
0.929
0.871
100
0.9063 [0.9042, 0.9084]
0.631
1.454
16
−1.986
0.924
0.871
Appendix
Table I.2: Results per Run. ι(0) : bits per pair at τ=0 , with its 95% interval. Lower /ι and upper /ι : smallest ratio of the lower half and largest ratio of the upper half of Theorem 6 , at the learner’s own budgets, to ι , over the noise levels with ι≥0.01 . In: noise levels, of 16, at which ι lies in the bracket up to its 95% intervals. Slope, cfit , afit : tail slope and fitted constants (Appendix I.3 ). The runs at d=32n do not meet the dimension condition d≥64n of Theorem 3 for these learners; Theorem 6 holds in every dimension (Appendix I.2 ).
Figure I.1: Total Information against n . Totals nι in bits (prior averages of lower-bound estimates, with 95% intervals) against n at d=64n for ridge ERM (filled) and logistic ridge ERM (open), at τ=0 , τ=M/n and τ=nM/(2n) with each learner’s own M . Shaded: between the lower and upper halves of Theorem 6 at the learners’ own budgets. Values at τ>0 are interpolated linearly in log–log coordinates between neighbouring noise levels of the grid.
n
n2/3M/n
ι(0) [95% interval]
Lower /ι
Upper /ι
In
Slope
cfit
afit
50
0.406
0.9133 [0.9113, 0.9154]
0.632
1.410
24
−1.967
0.928
0.871
100
0.444
0.9063 [0.9042, 0.9084]
0.632
1.383
22
−2.081
0.920
0.851
300
0.470
0.8965 [0.8935, 0.8996]
0.633
1.388
22
−1.952
0.905
0.851
1000
0.478
0.8910 [0.8885, 0.8935]
0.633
1.488
24
−2.048
0.892
0.891
3000
0.480
0.8881 [0.8851, 0.8910]
0.635
1.400
24
−1.945
0.899
0.891
Appendix
Table I.3: The Quartic Learner on the Supersamples of the Ridge ERM Runs at d=64n . n2/3M/n : the per-pair signal in units of n−2/3 . The other columns are those of Table I.2 , at the learner’s own budgets and over its 24 noise levels (In: of 24); the slope uses five to seven levels. The column ι(0) nearly coincides with that of ridge ERM in Table I.2 : at τ=0 the release is the ridge release times ∥Zˉ∥−2/3 , which is close to a function of the law.
Figure I.2: The Quartic Learner on the Ridge Supersamples. The learner θ(4)=∥Zˉ∥−2/3Zˉ at d=64n , averaged over the prior; bars are 95% intervals. (a) Lower-bound estimates of the bits per pair ι of X(4)+τG against τ/(M/n) , with the learner’s own M ; shaded: between the two halves of Theorem 6 at its own M , V and Vres ; open: ridge ERM, as in Figure 2 (a). (b) Totals nι at τ=n−2/3 for the releases X(4) and X(2) of the two learners on the same supersamples, with the bounds 3n1/3 on X(2) at every law and n/8 on X(4) at the zero-mean law of Proposition H.5 (v).
Result
Statement
Consequence for X+τG
Livni (2023) , Thm. 1
For 0<ε<1/54 , every learner with expected excess risk at most ε and sample complexity n(ε) has, for some law on the scaled sign cube in dimension d and a convex Lipschitz loss, quadratic in the construction, I(θ;Sn)≥∑iI(θ;Zi)=Ω~(d/(ε5n(ε)6)) . Lower bounds on the conditional information are left open.
None: I(θ;Sn)≥I(θ;U∣Z) , so not even the conditional model information is bounded below.
Attias et al. (2024) , Thms. 4.1–4.2, 4.5–4.6, Cors. 5.6–5.7
Learners whose excess risk, at every law on the scaled sign cube, is at most ε with probability at least 1−δ′ , for the affine loss −⟨θ,z⟩ on the unit ball with δ′≤ε (Thm. 4.1), or for the strongly convex loss ∥θ∥2/2−⟨θ,z⟩ on Rd with δ′=O(n−2) (Thm. 4.2); every sample size at least the sample complexity of the learner; d≥Ω(n2logn) . Then I(θ;U∣Z)=Ω(ε−2) and Ω(ε−1) , respectively, and the same orders hold for its individual-sample form (Cors. 5.6–5.7, the first for proper learners). ξ -sound adversaries, which read θ , the point and the data law and flag any of the fresh points with probability at most ξ , certify recall of the same orders with probability Ω(1) up to logarithmic factors (Thms. 4.5–4.6) if d≥Ω(n2log(n/ξ)) and, for the affine loss, δ′<ε and n equals the learner’s sample complexity, assumed of order log(1/δ′)/ε2 .
Upper bound only: Icand(X+τG)≤I(θ;U∣Z) by ( 4 ).
Voitovych et al. (2025) , Thm. 2.7
Affine loss, with parameters in the largest cube inscribed in a unit ℓs ball, s≥2 , and sparse sign data. In the Euclidean case, for ξ<1/e and 1/(6n)≤ε≤min{c(d/(n2log(1/ξ)))1/2,1/6} , with a constant c , every learner with expected excess risk at most ε has a tracer that reads θ , the point and the population mean, with false-positive rate at most ξ and expected recall Ω(ε−2) . At ε≍n−1/2 this requires d≳nlog(1/ξ) and gives recall Ω(n) .
The decisions are functions of θ , the point and the mean, not of the release, and involve no τ .
Voitovych et al. (2025) , Thm. 3.5
Recall bounds derived from a lower bound on the trace value, the mean tracer score of the training points, and a bound on the sum of squared scores (Lemma 3.4), through a counting inequality of Paley–Zygmund type (Lemma A.11).
The two moments that Theorem 6 turns into information (Remark J.1 ).
Haghifam et al. (2023) , Thm. 17
Gradient descent with n2 steps of size n−3/2 on the loss −⟨θ,z⟩ over the unit ball, with data among the standard basis vectors of R2n2 : its evaluated-CMI bounds do not vanish, while its generalization error is O(n−1/2) . They also show that analysing a surrogate whose final iterate is corrupted by Gaussian noise cannot establish minimax rates for gradient descent.
One algorithm on one instance, at τ=0 , with no upper bound.
Wang & Mao (2023b) , Ex. 1 and App. F
On the algorithm and instance of the previous row (their Example 1), with constant probability the sign of Xi reveals Ui (Appendix F).
As in the previous row.
Appendix
Table J.1: Exact Statements of the Results Closest to Theorem 3
Result
Declarations
Assumption 2
NativeLinkClass , NativeRegularizerClass
Section 2
signProductLaw (the law Dp ), superMeasure (the supersample), nativeAccurateLearners (the learners of Theorem 3 )
Definition 1
nativeLossRelease ; releaseInfoI , releaseInfoJ , releaseInfoS , built on mutualInfo and condMutualInfo
native_loss_information_law_local (Assumption 2 as stated), native_loss_information_law ( ϕ and g measurable), native_loss_information_law_infimum (infimum over a class), native_loss_information_prior_averaged_local (the lower bound on average over the prior); nativeWorstInformation (the worst case); mainDimensionConstant_eq_of_le_four ( Cdim=32 when b≤4 )
Appendix D.7
Theorem 3 at ε1 : native_loss_information_law_paper_threshold . The bound ( 42 ) and the positivity of M on (0,ε1] : explicit_threshold_bound , paperThresholdBracket_anti , native_signed_budget_threshold . The bracket ( 43 ): explicit_bracket . The limits ( 44 ) and the bounds over the regime: explicit_schedule_limits , explicit_regime_limits . Monotonicity in d : native_budgets_mono_dim . Quartic logistic learning, the limits and the threshold 6.0⋅10−4 : quartic_schedule_limits , quartic_bracket_root
Appendix
Table K.1: Results of the Paper and the Lean Declarations That Prove Them