While recent work in Reinforcement Learning with Verifiable Rewards (RLVR) has shown that a small subset of critical tokens disproportionately drives reasoning gains, an analogous token-level understanding of On-Policy Distillation (OPD) remains largely unexplored. In this work, we investigate high-loss tokens, a token type that--as the most direct signal of student-teacher mismatch under OPD's per-token KL objective--should progressively diminish as training converges according to existing studies; however, our empirical analysis shows otherwise. Even after OPD training reaches apparent saturation, a substantial subset of tokens continues to exhibit persistently high loss; these tokens, which we term Rock Tokens, can account for up to 18% of the tokens in generated outputs. Our investigation reveals two startling paradoxes. First, despite their high occurrence frequency providing a disproportionately large share of total gradient norms, Rock Tokens themselves remain stagnant throughout training, resisting teacher-driven corrections. Second, through causal intervention, we find that these tokens provide negligible functional contribution to the model's actual reasoning performance. These findings suggest that a vast amount of optimization bandwidth is spent on structural and discourse residuals that the student model cannot or need not internalize. By deconstructing these dynamics, we demonstrate that strategically bypassing these ``stumbling blocks'' can significantly streamline the alignment process, challenging the necessity of uniform token weighting and offering a more efficient paradigm for large-scale model distillation.
On-policy distillation offers dense, per-token supervision for training reasoning models; however, it remains unclear under which conditions this signal is beneficial and under which it is detrimental. Which teacher model should be used, and in the case of self-distillation, which specific context should serve as the supervisory signal? Does the optimal choice vary from one token to the next? At present, addressing these questions typically requires costly training runs whose aggregate performance metrics obscure the dynamics at the level of individual tokens. We introduce a training-free diagnostic framework that operates at the highest resolution: per token, per question, and per teacher. We derive an ideal per-node gradient defined as the parameter update that maximally increases the student's probability of success. We then develop a scalable targeted-rollout algorithm to estimate this gradient efficiently, even for long chains of intermediate thoughts. The gradient alignment score, defined as the cosine similarity between this ideal gradient and any given distillation gradient, quantifies the extent to which a particular configuration approximates the ideal signal. Across a range of self-distillation settings and external teacher models, we observe that distillation guidance exhibits substantially higher alignment with the ideal on incorrect rollouts than on correct ones, where the student already performs well and the teacher's signal tends to become noisy. Furthermore, we find that the optimal distillation context depends jointly on the student model's capacity and the target task, and that no single universally effective configuration emerges. These findings motivate the use of per-task, per-token diagnostic analyses for distillation.
Mohammadreza Armandpour, Fatih Ilhan, David Harrison +6
On-policy distillation (OPD) has emerged as a core component of modern LLM post-training pipelines, yet we reveal a failure mode: degenerate agreement, where students exploit repetitive loops to achieve near-perfect token agreement with the teacher despite globally flawed responses. We therefore shift our focus from agreement to teacher-student mismatch, and find that mismatch tokens can be mainly categorized into two types: student-excess tokens and student-deficit tokens. Student-excess tokens are generated by the student but assigned near-zero probability by the teacher; their log-ratio corrections grow unbounded and destabilize the update. Student-deficit tokens, in contrast, are preferred by the teacher but rarely sampled by the student; their absence blocks the transfer of the teacher's reasoning patterns. To tackle these mismatch directions, we propose TIDE (Token-level Independent Deficit-Excess correction), which applies bounded Hellinger shaping to suppress the most severe sampled excesses and an analytic teacher top-K injection to restore deficient probability mass without requiring deficit tokens to be sampled. Across mathematical reasoning benchmarks with multiple Qwen3 teacher-student pairs, TIDE consistently outperforms standard OPD and recent token-selection and reward-shaping baselines. Moreover, the gains of TIDE are more pronounced under strong teacher-student mismatch, where it improves Avg@8 from 6.9% to 20.3%, reduces average response length by a factor of 3.6, and substantially reduces formatting failures. Code is available at https://github.com/yzc-666/TIDE
On-policy distillation (OPD) trains a student on its own rollouts with token-level teacher supervision. Recent selective OPD methods exploit the non-uniformity of OPD signals by prioritizing high-entropy or high-disagreement tokens. We revisit this principle and ask: which token-level teacher signals are actually learnable? Using a fixed-context diagnostic that measures same-context teacher-student KL reduction, we show that raw KL disagreement is a coarse proxy for learning value. It conflates learnable disagreement, where the teacher assigns corrective mass to the student's top-K candidates, with incompatible disagreement, where the teacher places mass mostly off the student's current support. We formalize this local compatibility as token teachability and show that it better predicts fixed-context improvement than raw KL alone. Motivated by this finding, we propose Teachability-Aware OPD (TA-OPD), a lightweight token-position selection method that applies OPD loss to high-teachability positions without reward models or verifiers. Across Qwen2.5 and Qwen 3 teacher-student settings, TA-OPD often surpasses full-token OPD with only 5% retained tokens and improves over entropy- and divergence-based baselines. Our results reframe selective OPD as selecting learnable teacher signals rather than merely salient tokens.