Schattor: Schatten-family methods for deep learning optimization

Schatten-$\infty$ based optimizers such as Muon have shown promising empirical performance, but there remains seemingly conflicting observations regarding whether they are beneficial. We resolve this conflict by showing that the conclusion is regime dependent. Even when the objective is smooth in the Schatten-$\infty$ geometry, smaller Schatten-$p$ geometries can be optimal, specifically in the low-dimensional regime, which we show includes Chinchilla scaling. This conclusion follows from a new noise-robust acceleration result for the SODA framework for $p>2$. The same analysis explains why Muon-like methods do not require warmup, why they naturally favor large batches, and yields a batch size scaling rule for arbitrary $p$.

Modern optimizers, like Muon, impose matrix-wise geometry constraints on their updates. These matrix-wise constraints can be unified under Linear Minimization Oracle (LMO) theory. However, all current methods impose fixed LMO geometries for the update rules, chosen by-design or empirically, which are not necessarily optimal according to the problem's geometry. We introduce a novel efficient datadriven criterion for dynamically choosing proxy-optimal update LMO geometries on individual Deep Neural Network layers. Derived in closed form from gradient and activation statistics using a single-step random feature regression surrogate model, our criterion navigates a design space interpolating from SGD to Muon updates. Moreover, integrating parameter-wise preconditioning allows our framework to recover SGD, Muon, Adam, and MuAdam as specific extrema. To make this adaptive approach scalable, we pair it with efficient computational strategies, achieving only a $\sim$ 3% runtime overhead on highly optimized baselines. As a proof of concept, we show that this data-driven optimizer beats or remains competitive with the performance of the best performing optimizer between Muon and AdamW across three different training scenarios. Ultimately, this work provides evidence that LMO geometry can be successfully and efficiently adapted from runtime data, opening a new pathway for optimizer design beyond static geometries.

Orthogonalized momentum updates, as used in Muon-style optimizers, have recently shown strong empirical stability in large-scale deep learning. However, most current orthogonalized methods are still paired with fixed, externally scheduled, or otherwise open-loop magnitude rules, so their scale is not directly calibrated from the realized optimization trajectory. Motivated by the closed-loop perspective behind Lipschitz-free and noise-adaptive methods, we propose OptMuon, a family of adaptive momentum orthogonalization methods for stochastic nonconvex optimization. OptMuon combines Muon-style polar-factor directions with a trajectory-dependent AdaGrad-Norm-type coefficient schedule, so that the update magnitude is determined by the observed gradient and momentum history rather than by a prescribed Lipschitz-dependent rule. The schedule does not use the smoothness constant, the variance level, or the bounded-gradient constant in parameter selection, and its running-maximum correction prevents isolated gradient spikes from causing excessive coefficient collapse. Under lower-boundedness, unbiased stochastic gradients with bounded variance, smoothness, and an almost-sure bounded stochastic-gradient condition, we prove two complementary expected-stationarity guarantees. OptMuon-A achieves the noise-adaptive rate $\tilde{\mathcal O}(T^{-1/2}+σ^{1/2}T^{-1/4})$ under average smoothness, while OptMuon-I achieves $\tilde{\mathcal O}(T^{-1/2}+σ^{1/3}T^{-1/3})$ under individual smoothness. In the zero-noise regime, both bounds automatically reduce to a nearly optimal deterministic first-order rate $\tilde{\mathcal O}(T^{-1/2})$ without manual hyperparameter retuning. These results show that closed-loop scalar adaptation can be combined with Muon-style momentum orthogonalization while retaining noise adaptivity and zero-noise optimality up to logarithmic factors.