When Valid Signals Fail: Regime Boundaries Between LLM Features and RL Trading Policies

The standard LLM training pipeline applies reinforcement learning (RL) only after pre-training and supervised fine-tuning (SFT). We question this status quo by training a LLM from scratch and applying RL, SFT, and SFT followed by RL directly to intermediate pre-training checkpoints. We find that RL is effective very early, and often matches the full SFT$\to$RL pipeline early as well. Through experiments on harder problems, we find that targeted pre-training data composition is a strong lever for RL effectiveness, even more so than model scale. Beyond reasoning accuracy, applying RL directly to base checkpoints expands the model's distribution; the sharpening effect reported in recent work arises only when RL follows SFT. The general capabilities of the model remain essentially unchanged by RL, while they degrade following SFT. Finally, we merge RL and SFT objectives by parallel averaging, which outperforms across all other training methods discussed, across metrics, while preserving general capabilities. Together, these results suggest that LLM training might benefit from an expanded use of RL.

We study when large language models (LLMs) can serve as effective black-box policy optimizers for reinforcement learning (RL) tasks, i.e., when can we replace classical RL algorithms with an LLM? We explore this question by introducing Prompted Policy Optimization (PromptPO), an iterative method that prompts an LLM with Python descriptions of the state space, action space, and reward function, then has it generate and refine executable policies based on rollout feedback. Across hard exploration environments, Meta-World robotics tasks, and several real-world control problems, PromptPO often matches or exceeds the performance of standard RL baselines while using substantially fewer environment interactions. To maximize expected return, and without further explicit prompting, the policies PromptPO outputs range from tuned proportional controllers or rule-based plans to policies that run planning algorithms like value iteration. Our results demonstrate that LLM-based policy optimization is sufficient when the LLM can leverage prior knowledge about the environment or optimization strategy. PromptPO underperforms standard RL baselines in MuJoCo domains. This demonstrates possible limitations of LLM-based policy optimization to settings that requiring fine-grained continuous control.

Reinforcement learning (RL)-based post-training often improves the reasoning performance of large language models (LLMs) beyond the training domain, while supervised fine-tuning (SFT) frequently leads to general capabilities forgetting. However, the mechanisms underlying this contrast remain unclear. To bridge this gap, we present a feature-level mechanistic analysis methodology to probe RL generalization using a controlled experimental setup, where RL- and SFT-tuned models are trained from the same base model on identical data. Leveraging our interpretability framework, we align internal activations across models within a shared feature space and analyze how features evolve during post-training. We find that SFT rapidly introduces many highly specialized features that stabilize early in training, whereas RL induces more restrained and continually evolving feature changes that largely preserve base models' representations. Focusing on samples where RL succeeds but the base model fails, we identify a compact, task-agnostic set of features that directly mediate generalization across diverse tasks. Feature-level interventions confirm their causal role: disabling these features significantly degrades RL models' generalization performance, while amplifying them improves base models' performance. The code is available at https://github.com/danshi777/RL-generalization.